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I never played it on any other console or PC, and I relate to all of these. Every time there are items in a container you can also pick up (plate, bowl, basket.) I cringe, because I know I might as well just pick up the fucking container first since there’s no way I won’t ACCIDENTALLY pick it up and have to drop it after anyway. Same with gold pieces that are near something useless like embalming tools or empty wine bottles. Changing equips is such a chore that I generally play one hand sword, one hand fire magic, only changing if I need to heal or think I need a shield. I love archery and two hand weapons, but I’m more likely to have to switch to something else FROM those mid-battle, so now I just avoid them. I’ve never played mods in Skyrim, but I’ve played modded games before.

There’s something so disorganized and distracting from the core experience about them that even if they’re good, they ruin a game. Hell- by the time you’ve tried them all out and experimented to see which work well or together, etc, you’ve already bored yourself of the game. It reminds me of like when we all first got emulators in the 90’s- you’d be constantly switching out games because you had quick access to all of them and ended up never really sitting and playing one through before you just got antsy to play another, or tweaking plugins and settings trying to get rid of one little audio artifact or transparency issue. To each their own, but I’m personally all for an organized experience that is as intended. Acting like your opinion is scripture is buffoonery!

Anyway, I’d definitely say the combat is clunky, the story is (and I figured it was on purpose for the sake of being open) disjointed, and personally I consider the map to be garbage- but limited isn’t quite the adjective I would choose as the game is very fleshed out as is. I mean, anything in the world would be considered limited compared to itself with more things added on.

Still, when I hear people speak of mods, they’re 99.9% if the time referring to messing with the game in breaking ways or turning everything into Shrek. As somebody who is playing without mods, I don’t see a bad game here. It’s unrefined in many places but the overall package is a great game that stands on its own.

You can scoff at my taste, but if a game needed to be modded to be playable, I wouldn’t consider buying or playing it to begin with. I'm just sad you haven't been able to enjoy the plethora of QoL mods available for the game due to thinking mods ruin the experience (it comes across that way). When I think mods, I think fixes, new lore friendly content such as immersive items, quests and lands to explore. I think new gameplay systems aimed at further realism (immersion in the world). Starting the game as who you want to be (not having To be dragonborn). Being able to play the opening cutscene with all the cut content added, be able to make choices in quests that were previously only one choice really takes the game up a notch. Mods make Bethesda games better, a lot better.

Which is why I call the base game limited as a lot of mods should've been in the main game already. I’m aware that some are QOL upgrades and such. I dunno- I’m just never really concerned with immersion or perfection. I always accept a game’s flaws unless they’re too many to make the game a functional experience.

I have this thing where I like to experience things as originally intended. It’s just who I am. I feel like if I have to modify things to enjoy them, I don’t really need them in the first place- and furthermore I find that mods usually lead to glitches and unintended consequences anyway.

I’m just a collated dude when it comes to gaming- I want the original vision and I want to suspend my own disbelief rather than needing even more immersive aspects or realism. Fair enough I guess. Most people use mods long after they've finished the game vanilla. It makes something stale, fresh. Personal preference I guess. Most major mods have been extensively patched and made compatible so those glitches and bugs you refer to mostly don't happen if you follow instructions correctly. But again, each to their own.